Gary Miller
Don't get up in the morning unless you can offer the client a commercial solution, stay in bed and do what a hundred other lawyers do every day.
Tony Peto QC
We are starting off the case in the way that traditionally lawyers would think you ended it. We make sure that we've actually secured the evidence and the assets at the very beginning and then we know there's a target.
Gary Miller
Freeze, Seize and Recover.
Tony Peto QC
ROI is everything.
Gary Miller
It's the embodiment of what you and I do. We actually recovered more than we lost, do you remember that case, that great case?
Tony Peto QC
I do, yes.
Gary Miller
A shipping case where there was bribery, corruption.
Tony Peto QC
Someone has deliberately doctored the email. It's not really litigation as people know it. This involves burning midnight oils, it involves working ridiculously hard at difficult times, it involves having to react to an emergency at any time of the day or night during an investigation and then having to wake up Judges or having to go and stampede to different sites.
Gary Miller
The milk case.
Tony Peto QC
Oh the milk case. Our adversaries used every which technique to try and do over our clients.
Gary Miller
We turned up and they actually concealed the laptop that we were looking for that had all of our data on it.
Tony Peto QC
They did.
Gary Miller
So you know things go wrong.
Tony Peto QC
What Gary's firm and our Chambers have managed to do recently is established jurisdiction in England on a case where one wouldn't have thought it was possible. There were no Defendants in England, there were no assets in England and there was no wrong doing in England. Where I think we are in the forefront is in the way in which we've been using our fraud investigations along with our international law expertise.
Gary Miller
What's not being done well is the understanding of the risk and what to do in relation to that risk.
Leona Powell
The reality of international fraud litigation is that it's often complicated and the facts develop very quickly.
Philippa Rees
You need to know what kind of issues to anticipate so these things don't take you by surprise.
Leona Powell
We've really worked together to draw on all of our different experiences in reality to build this case study which is effectively the ultimate fraud case. The delivery would be based obviously in part about the proper academic law that sits behind it.
Philippa Rees
We'll develop the case study in real time as we go through the course looking at all the twists and turns that happen.
Leona Powell
The participants in the course will be invited to interact with us and they'll have the opportunity to raise questions or issues based on their own experiences in this field …
Philippa Rees
And to share their own curve ball.
Leona Powell
And to share their own curve balls.
Tony Peto QC
This is not a dry law lecture but this is how we do it in practice.
Gary Miller
We are absolute specialists at what we do and when we work together in that way we get results. Tony and I and Leona and Philippa and the things we've done, they're super creative, super transformational. That's what you need, you've got to stay ahead of the bad guys. We all know this area is an area of discretion and if you've got some creative idea that can help us do our job better bring it on.